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Just Released: Obama’s Gun Ban List

Posted on 23 March 2009 by george

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady’s plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady’s current plans and targets of opportunity. It’s horrific. They’re going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They’ve made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states’ rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”

Note that Obama’s pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, “there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.” In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn’t have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose — is that devious or what? And of course, “sporting purpose” is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Forward or send to every gun owner you know…
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube – CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

A partial list of gun rights groups:

Gun Owners of America

http://gunowners.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

http://www.jpfo.org/

FREEDOM=GUNS

http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm

National Rifle Association

http://www.nra.org/

Second Amendment Committee

http://www.libertygunrights.com/

Second Amendment Foundation

http://www.saf.org/

Second Amendment Sisters

http://www.2asisters.org/

Women Against Gun Control

http://www.wagc.com/

              

52 Comments For This Post

  1. mark Says:

    when they come .they will die .

  2. Zermoid Says:

    Why do these people always try to say that if a gun is not purely for sporting use then it’s not protected by the second amendment? If anything a military arm should be even more protected than a sporting arm! Since “Militia” is also included in the Second Amendment wouldn’t that mean that arms that would be used in time of war would have special protection? Including, in my opinion anyway, machine guns, rockets and other arms capable of fighting a war?
    I would think so as it was intended to protect the country from it’s own government if need be.

  3. Dr. Joseph Prince Says:

    This is contrary to the 2nd amendment, for good reason. Criminals love the Obama
    Marxists but they hate the 2nd amendment rights because it allows private citizens to protect themselves. Remember to vote against any congressman who supports this restriction of our rights.

  4. Dr. Joseph K. Prince, Ph.D. MPH, ASCP. Says:

    The founding fathers knew what they were doing when they installed the 2nd amendment to the constitution. Unfortunately, the current bunch of incompetents in the Federal govt. have no idea what they are doing. It has been well established, the more active the President and Congress, the greater the harm.
    Citizens that are armed, can defend themselves, their families and their property. If you take away that right by denying them their arms, you increase the potential for the criminal to abuse society at will.
    If you are a law abiding citizen, this is factual information you need to know. Criminals will continue to laugh at your efforts.

    This info below just about says it all. Now I wont have to explain my guns and the use of them…

    PEOPLE ASK WHY?

    Why I Carry a Gun?

    My old grandpa said to me son,’ there comes a time in every man’s life
    when he stops bustin’ knuckles and starts bustin’ caps and usually it’s
    when he becomes too old to take an ass whoopin’. I don’t carry a gun to
    kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

    I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this
    world is a very scary place.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun because there are
    real threats in the world.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

    I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I
    understand the limitations of government.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to
    spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

    I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because
    I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere
    tomorrow afternoon or evening.

    I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy. I carry a gun because, when I die
    and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

    I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

    I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

    I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

    Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually come too late and only investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.

    AS A FORENSIC SCIENTIST, PRACTICING TOXICOLOGY AND PATHOLOGY, I HAVE SEEN THE HORRIBLE RESULTS OF THOSE POOR INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO WERE UNABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES BECAUSE THE POLICE CANNOT ARRIVE UNTIL FIVE OR TEN MINUTES AFTER THE EVENT OCCURRED. PLEASE GOD, SEND SOME INTELLIGENCE TO THE IDIOTS IN D.C.

  5. Dr. Joseph K. Prince, Ph.D. MPH, ASCP. Says:

    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    ——————————
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    —- ————- ————-
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    —————————–
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    ——————————
    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.. The first year results are now in: List of 7 items:

    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

    Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens..

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.

    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

    If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends.

  6. gene fish Says:

    what do we do to GET LID of ”THAT ONE” ?????????????????????

  7. Chris spencer Says:

    2 things
    1st guns don’t kill people kill people
    2nd if you take away the right to bare arms then only the criminals and police will have guns and the police can’t be everywhere.

  8. Larry Townley Says:

    Do they really think we are just going to give up our GUNs? I spent too much money on the ones that I own. They can have them when I assume room temperature.
    Of course too many people in this country will be willing to go down this road without putting up so much as an argument. Complacency at its best.

  9. Edward Peterson Says:

    That is a very evil list made by very evil people.

  10. gary russell Says:

    is this going to come to armed revolution, or can we actually accomplish this peacefully? Illuminati, Atlantean conspiracy, rense.com, etc……. not looking too promising at the moment, and I was hoping for a more normal life….

  11. Mike Inman Says:

    I’ll give up my guns to them! Starting with the bullets first.

  12. Richard Ross Says:

    The congress seem to be in the business of violating our constitution, every day. If they repeal our second ammendment, we will be no different than China, Russa or Nazzi Germany under Hitler!

  13. Lilly Cote Says:

    From what I see , these guns they want to ban are ones that are designed for war-for killing people-these are not hunting rifles. My belief is that guns do not kill-its the one’s holding them that do…Guess the govenment is afraid of something?? I am a ‘flowerchild’ of the sixties-don’t believe in killing-or senseless wars-capital punishment and allot of other thngs. I just want to live with freedom and respect those around me, that earn respct. Can’t we all just get alog again? Find som common ground and rest on it/?

  14. g. wod Says:

    didn’t take too long did it?

  15. richard adams Says:

    unreal, i hope it never goes through,i served this country in the usmc,to preserve our freedoms not to have them taken away!!!!!

  16. Bush Gardens Says:

    This can’t be real man. Sorry, it didn’t get far the first time, it wont get far this time. I don’t say that out of ignorance, but out of resolve. I will never give over my fire arms. Ever. They realize this. We cook the food they eat, fix the toilets they clog and guard them while they sleep. We surround them.

    If this is real, where did you find this out? What is your resource? What bill is being introduced? I realize all to well what they want, but even they know they lack the power to pull this off. How many millions of gun owners would put up a fight? So I don’t buy it. Sorry. I am more then willing to give you a chance if you only post your source. Where did this list come from? And please don’t say HR 1022 which was shot down in 2007.

  17. s Says:

    I can not believe this i am 42 years old and have just begun to buy guns and these people want to ban them i have found a great hobby in guns me and my friends have a great time at ranges with our legally purchased guns they should watch criminals better make guns where only the purchaser can fire them with there finger prints eventally we would attach the device to all guns or put tracking devices in all guns thats all obomanation sucks a fat cock

  18. allen Says:

    this is BS if Obama wants a war he may get it over 2 mill gun owner here in the US a lot of them has told me the they will die before giving up their guns the guns on this list most of them are the ones that most gun owner have

    now look at this:

    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine! that is 100% of all semiautomatic pistol

  19. John V. Burns Says:

    Our current government is the very reason the founding fathers of our country put the 2nd ammendment, as well as the other ammendments, in the US Consitution. Our government currently does not give a hoot about you and me; they have their own agenda and that includeds the enslavement of the American people. Render us defenseless and we will be like clay in their hands. Without a weapon in my hand I am at the mercy of the government on the left and the criminals on the right. I don’t know about you, but I intend to keep a weapon in each hand.

  20. John V. Burns Says:

    As I recall only a small portion of the population supported the American break away from Great Britian during the 1770′s. Something like 18% of the total population. Something like only 10% of the total population actually took an active part in the revolt. This small percentage is what gave us this great county, the benefits of which we all enjoy.

    Now, just 234 years later, out of a population of something like 300 million souls, 545 individuals are responsible to destrying it; that’s 1 president, 100 senators, 435 Congressmen and 9 Supreme Court Justices; 545 people that are resposible for all the problems we have in this country and the problems we are facing.

    Perhaps it’s about time the small percentage rose again.

  21. Daughter of Scotland Says:

    Bush Gardens,
    Refer to the sites LISTED above and check the legislation on GovTrack.US which will give you the status of the bill.

  22. Orrie Says:

    If any of this is true and it is implemented then we have a very big problem. 90 million Americans own firearms. Some will comply but I don’t think the rest will hand them over that easily. I hate to think of the outcome of a forced confiscation of firearms from law abiding citizens who believe the 2nd Amendment shall not be infringed. This is not good.

  23. CPRK Says:

    This is in response to:

    By Lilly Cote on April 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    From what I see , these guns they want to ban are ones that are designed for war-for killing people-these are not hunting rifles. My belief is that guns do not kill-its the one’s holding them that do…Guess the govenment is afraid of something?? I am a ‘flowerchild’ of the sixties-don’t believe in killing-or senseless wars-capital punishment and allot of other thngs. I just want to live with freedom and respect those around me, that earn respct. Can’t we all just get alog again? Find som common ground and rest on it/?

    Apparently you hae not heard of the “action shooting sports.” This includes CAS, IDPA IPSC, USPSA and many more. I shoot many of these, as do hundreds of thousands of men, women, children and families (yes, families). I choose not to hunt, but choose to shoot competitively. There are more than a million people in all these shooting disciplines/sports worldwide (yes, worldwide). The Second Amendment says nothing about hunting, and for a very good reason (see the words “well regulated militia” in the relevant text). It does not say, “well regulated bunch of hunters.” Read the Federalist Papers as well as many of Jefferson’s writings. You will see that we have an obligation to ourselves and the free world to be competent shooters. Besides, it’s a barrel of fun for the whole family, and will nurture a sense of real responsibility and maturity in our kids. School massacres are not the result of responsible family gun ownership and use, but instead the result of the lack of it. Guns were not “politically incorrect” until dangerous and anti-Bill of Rights people specifically and intentionally made them that way.

    The Second Amendment, and I do not mean anything at all about hunting, is what makes this nation the great bastion of free, kind and giving people that we always have been–particularly while laying down out lives and those of our children to save the rest of the gun-controlled world, and the atrocities that that naturally breeds/bred.

  24. CPRK Says:

    I was very much taken–and impressed, as a lawyer myself, at the care and research this \subject\ (BTW he hates that nomenclature, as ANY free INDIVIDUAL naturally will) of the UK undertook to present this ongoing and changing page.

    All you, \look at the Utopian Brit\ types. . .please read carefully, and be afraid. Be VERY afraid about proposed \gun control\ in this wonderful and great nation (the LAST bastion of RKBA–Right to Keep and Bear Arms–as this concerned \subject\ calls it).

    http://dvc.org.uk/dunblane/readme.html

  25. Maggie Says:

    Do they not realize that if they take guns from Americans that only have them for hunting or protection that are hurting the honest people. The people who use them for harm will probably not turn them in. If they do manage to get them they will be brought in with the drugs black market and make more money for the criminals.

    My son was raised around guns. Of course, they were where he couldn’t get to them and not loaded, shells kept seperately. His father took him to the shooting range at an early age. As soon as he was old enough I had him take a class on handling and shooting guns. He shot trap in high school, but he had to pass the test first. This test was a written test, all guns right down to musket and bow and arrow shooting. He never bothered them as the attraction wasn’t there. I think parents should take more responsibility for them in the house. Taking away guns from the citizens is not the answer.

  26. Al in texas Says:

    47 months in-country, ’63-’67. I’ve earned the rights that the 2nd Amendment gives me. People better get off their ass and let THEIR politician know how they feel. If you’re a pacifist, fine, let the rest of us do the job of protecting society from those who get past the police. Ask a cop how he feels about an “unarmed” general population. I already have.

  27. Riccardo J Marks Says:

    FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!!!!!!

  28. SSG Gibb Says:

    Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who didn’t! If they cared about “The people” they won’t do this. Think of the women and children who will be turned into widows and orphans. Does any one think they would come themselves for the firearms? I think NOT. So who would they send into the meatgrinder to get my guns?

  29. DANHARDT Says:

    President Obama just passed a bill letting us carry a concealed weapon in any state park in America. So….. when is he taking our guns again?????? idiots!!!!!

  30. Doc,XNavySeal Says:

    Well, this will probly be the excuse for martial law, they have nato trps training on the streets of Texas, Ariz. Utah. But I believe they are afraid that our boys will not attack us,so they have Nato here,their troops would love to take the Americans down a notch or two. Take my advice, if Mr.Obama calls martial law, “DISAPEAR” I am, no way they are putting me in a camp.Just study and train in survival, and hit the woods , desert, Mt., just disapear and watch. Good Luck, God Bless

  31. jerry shumaker Says:

    i dont own a gun but if i did id die before they would get the reason i dont have one is because as a marine its to noisy it gives away your position i like the eliment of surprise in nam i only used it when ordered to the rest i did by hand an still would today but i stand firm with gun owners an will support them cause i believe in america as it is not what some want it to be

  32. Joe Spenner, Stayton, OR 97383 Says:

    From Joe Spenner:
    This gun bill is absolute hypocrisy! Those who want to steal “domestic guns”, are the same ones who inflict “international, PRE-EMPTIVE WAR” on Iraq and Afghanistan with the most terrible weapons that fire depleted uranium bullets. To see the results, type in the search box: EXTREME BIRTH DEFORMITIES. To see the type guns “THEY” invent and approve for their use against other people check from internet: “GATLING GUN.” And the final ‘bottom line,’ is found in the following items that MUST BE SPREAD EVERYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY:
    1. AFPN – Former Rothschild Illuminati Confirms MILITARY GUILLOTINES
    2. AFPN imc – 2004.03.02 – SHACKLED BOXCARS in OR,TX,,MT,NH,NC; & inter…
    3. AFPN – OBAMA REPORT: DETENTION CAMPS for CITIZENS.
    4. AFPN – RE: satanic Martial law & foreign troops.
    5. Satan Displays Bush ‘Hook ‘em’ Hand Gesture; Is The Devil a UT Fan Too?
    6. The American Ideal of 1776.
    7. THE BULLET PROOF GEORGE WASHINGTON.
    8. George Washington’s First Inaugural Address.
    Read, study and aply the BILL OF RIGHTS!
    Say, print and spread the word they hate and true freemen love: J E S U S !
    I have my Grandfather’s original CITIZENSHIP PAPERS AND I love AMERICA!
    Remember George Washington on his knees in the snow at Valley Forge! Let’s fearlessly follow his example for the safety of our traditional AMERICA!
    Joe Spenner

  33. Greg Holder Says:

    I cant see a conviction by a jury of my piers for defending myself. I would rather be judged by 12 than toted by 6.

  34. rick Says:

    The problem with the government attacking the Constitution is that it was designed to keep the government in check . We dont get our rights from the Constitution or any government . These rights we all hold so dear are God given rights at birth . The fact that the government has to follow rules is a result of a group of men (the founding fathers) got together and decided that after the war to get away from King George , they needed to limit governments ability to oppress the people . The government nowadays are trying to become King George . They know the Constitution is a blocking point to them . They know the 2nd amendment was put there to insure our government doesnt get out of hand . And if they do the American people can form a militia and replace the current government . I believe that is what is coming . I for one will be glad when it is over and hope and pray it doesnt come down to war with ourselves and those who dont understand the freedoms they are losing . Because it will be patriots against the ones defending the government . Sad but that is the bottom line . Sooner or later that is the way it will break down .

  35. Roy from Texas Says:

    I completed my yearly qualification today, thanks to the local PD. To carry under Federal law as a retired peace officer this is necessary, although in itself is a violation of the 2nd Amendment. We discussed the current situation in America today and they realize they are targets also. Cops swear to protect and defend the Constitution just like politicians, however, most of them mean it. If it does come to attempted confiscation of guns I don’t believe it will be the police but government agent thugs or worse, the blue helmets of the UN. In either case, the officers I shot with today will have my back. Government had best remember that a large percentage of gun owners are military vets and fully understand that war is killing people and destroying property…and we are the best in the world at it. Semper Fi

  36. Mike Says:

    I will never give up my guns without a fight. I wouldn’t care if I was 90 years old, they would still have to fight me for them.

  37. hellferbreakfast Says:

    What part of “shall not be infringed” is not understood ?? Attempted gun confiscation will be the tipping point.

  38. Max Corkle Says:

    I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

  39. Average Joe Says:

    For those that don’t understand how they will accomplish their goals of disarming us, think: Blackwater, NATO and other outside private intitutions.These people are nothing less than hired guns, proffessional killers….and they don’t care who or what they kill, so long as they get paid their blood money. Also, you might stop to think why our military is placed around the world instead of being in America to protect us. Folks, I beleive we are on our own in this….lock and load…if were are to “go out”…..lets at least go out fighting for our freedoms and liberties given to us….not by the Constitution or Bill of Rights….but by our creator.

  40. Carmen Says:

    Have any of you people even gone to the bill and looked at it. It is a ban on assault weapons. They are not going to come for your darned hunting rifle. And the bill is a renewal of a bill that has already been enacted. And the bill is from 2007- when hmmm, who was in charge…yes, I do believe the democrats were NOT entirely in charge.
    After reading two or three sentences here from you people, I have to say some of you should NOT have guns, since you do not treat them with any bit of respect by threatening others.
    Grow up people.

  41. Jared Says:

    546… you forgot about Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

  42. david nutter Says:

    the 2nd admentment was not ment for hunting purpose it was ment so if the goverment got out of controll then the people could take up arms to fight back so obama will loose the onlyway is the change the constitution

  43. david nutter Says:

    carmen it is on asault rifles not next hand guns then all guns and all he will do is to put guns in the hands of crimanals so tax paying citizens can not protect themselves

  44. steve coraggio Says:

    Those that support gun control, elected officials and the anti gun groups should be ehld responsible when innocent people are killed becasue they want gun bans. The anti’s never make any claim to enforce the existing gun laws that are already on the books. There are more than plenty of laws that can be used. Finally all gun controllers, both politicians and anti gun gun groups are Subversives. They are trying to eradicate our Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms. If they are ever successful at doing this, what other group will come along and attack another amendment they don’t like. The enemy is from within.

  45. jackie cox Says:

    Obama whoe plans to serve at least two terms as president, ruling through presidential perogative,, basically ignoring senators and congressmen via bribery by lobbies, and threat of death, The overall plan to replace our military force with an innercity paramiitary, more powerful than our international force. He begans it in section 5210 of the healthcare act, 5 billion to startup the paralimitary.He is an affirmative action president, empowered by new thousands of ACORN polling stations setup around the country, openly electing him through voterfraud. As the white community has 1.9 children per family, and black innercity communtities double their ranks every 20 years, exponentally increasing, He has an undisclosed agenda of asset reallocationm from white ownership to black ownership. his appointments like bolten, over the destroyed NASA, or holder as attorney general etc etc, gates, et al and whomever destroying our military stalling F-15, ending out navy/marine corps. affirmative action in health education and welfare, creating the exponentially increasing homelessnes of poor unemployed whites whose unemployment has ended, attacking the hispanics, enacting laws to remove them from our country, blaming them for the job losses while ignoring the NYSE exporting out infrastructure to slave countries

    Thje reason for disarming america is obvious, when the time comes to eliminate our rights/ownership, and reassign it, he does not want an armed bunch of literate men to fight his paramilitary. plus he sees the danger of living in a country he is bringing down, armed with long range assault rifles. He us criminality, treason in action, anti-united states of america, and will lie cheat steal and murder his way through life until the american way of life is ended. The newsmedia paid with our tressury will say and do whatever his handlers tell them, for the cash in their pockets. There is no historical president who has ever acted so proactive at ending the american way of life as, barry soretoe alias” barack hussain muhammed obama, who acts against the best interest of america in every way he is ab;e to do, with the endorsement of a gang of lawyers, judges, politicians, lobbies and clients who bribe the peoples representatives, with cash in their goal of a one world government, and a one brand economy, with common people serving as hirelings, servants slaves, throughout the world—he is an emissary of the world class mafia— a man against the threat america poses for the criminality in their attempt to restore nobility in the world—theirs

  46. jackie cox Says:

    The elections are a charade, common voterfraud, removing the paper ballot, evidence that could be investigated, exposing fraud—imagine, SUPER DELEGATES determining on whom we chose.

    When information technology exists that could replace the ballot box (established when america was illiterate), with an open ended referendum, bypassing the criminality of lawyers/judges/politicians/lobbies cliets, to make our decisions for us, managing our assets by professional management consulting teams, with a mandate to serve our decisions in government.

    There would be wailing and knashing of teeth as our legal-medical-insurancefraud mafia, prison economy, old money power dynasties, and open criminality like the waltonses, gateses, buffetses, federal reserve, NYSE, supreme court, bad actors in government, et al whose tax evasion of accrued taxation amounts to trillions, which they stash offshore along with their investments in slave factories, removed from america by bankruptcy experts.

    If we do not take back america, along with our stolen funds, then we will lose it, as 80 % + of our workforce is already near or below minum wage. Our work contract jobs represented and protected from human rights abuse, has declined from 35 % + 1972 to near 5 % in the last 40 years, the newsmedia claims, unions are the mafia, is absurd. Grocery store workers near minimum wage if paid 20 $ an hour and time studied, would cost us an additional 1 1/2 % more in food costs. now they are poverty stricken—what kind of people have we become—walmart pays 200 of 350 jobs 24 hour weeks, while getting their goods from slavery, paid less than 32 african nations avg wage. UNIONS continually trashed in the news by the wealthy news commentators reading the script placed before them, BAD ACTORS deceiving america, telling us whom to vote for, and whom to execute amoning the mentally ill, whom they would be no different if they had lived those peoples lives.

    The question is, will we eliminate crininality in government, remove the criminal gangs who monitor the bogus votes, assigned by presidential perogative by the worlds most predominent criminal, the president of the united states of america, an unsurper, a living lie, destroying the greatest country the world has witnessed, playing the race card, represented by a criminal culture, who have no respect for themselves, or anyone else.

    Will we change, or will we lose, its our choice !

  47. jackie cox Says:

    By Lilly Cote on April 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm

    From what I see , these guns they want to ban are ones that are designed for war-for killing people-these are not hunting rifles. My belief is that guns do not kill-its the one’s holding them that do…Guess the govenment is afraid of something?? I am a ‘flowerchild’ of the sixties-don’t believe in killing-or senseless wars-capital punishment and allot of other thngs. I just want to live with freedom and respect those around me, that earn respct. Can’t we all just get alog again? Find som common ground and rest on it/?========================================================================== I knew a lot of Cotes’ while working in montreal for 18 years, setting up engineering design companies, creating north american jobs, etc etc—then I was apolitical, an industrial artist, but I lived beside mont royal, the center city park, where the parti quebecois and their good friends the russians discussed their plans to breakup canada, after dark, away from others (they thought) lived in montreal from 72 till 94, one of 600,000 anglos removed from quebec, deported as an enemy of the quebec government, I witnessed the quebecois, inspired, financed, by the russians in an attempt to create a pitite cuba de la nord, both still active today. All 9/11 bombers came into north america through montreal, where canadian status is for sale to who ever pays the immigration quebec 1000 abjudicators/tribunals (individual lawyers who decide on who goes and who stays $$$$$$—Degaulle, french prime ministers speech ” Vive la quebec libre ” translation, liberate yourselves from canada, Lobbie inspired anti american laws, paid for by saudi princes, the world class mafia used /uses quebec as a steping stone to divide canada, and slither islamic cells into america.

    The terrorism is no longer called terrorism, no one claims responsibility for the ever increasing burning of america, undersea oil blowouts, ignored by a criminal president. as time goes on, the infrastructure is identified, the born again islamic affirmative action soft cells will harden. The ” I have a dream speech by martin luther KING, was surrounded by men with white headresses— islamic—muslim belief that deception is devine, if its against your enemy, may explain the evangellical rants by the good reverend wright and the black church. Whie no one is the same, subcultures develop in any country. The ethic cleansing of americas innercities cannot be denied. Chaos is on the increase, more than 70 % of murders are unsolved, a parge number of accidents are murders, affirmative action personnel reveals the attitude our innercity cultures have against the whites, too poor to afford legal representation to insure their rights as we draw ever closer to confrontation, one where the present commander and chief prefers not to deal with an armed adversary.

    The removal of our 2nd amendment rights to bear arms is an important step in the destruction of the United States of America, the criminality who introduce it and enact it onto law, may get rich from doing so, for however long thry live—time changes all things

  48. Az Says:

    Ok. This is the biggest piece of bs I’ve ever seen our government try to pull.
    Any honest law abiding citizen ain’t going to allow this to fly through congress as by the 2nd amendment of the bill of rights we are garenteed the right to bear arms. It doesn’t specify what kind or type of arms. But that right keeps any enemy the U.S. Has developed through the years from actually invading us because we can technically mobilize the whole nation as they don’t know who owns a gun and who doesn’t.
    For all I know. Any and all rights we as citizens have are slowly being brutally murdered as our government went from honest law abiding people with some moral compass to dishonest law bending people with no moral compass being bought out by our enemies or the criminal underworld because they just have to own big *** cars and houses.

  49. John Says:

    Like Charltin said, when they can pry them out of my cold dead hands.

  50. John Says:

    I don’t necessarily condone revolution by force of arms. However, I believe it worked in the 1700′s. Isn’t that why we are America? Ooorah!

  51. John Says:

    I own a few weapons, and reload ammo everyday. I also hold a fourth floor advantage. Don’t most marines tell you, that
    that is a good thing? Oorah!

  52. John K Says:

    um…who’s George? is he like deepthroat? lmao

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